Friday, May 5, 2023

Plans for Staircase pathway repairs not on immediate horizon for City Operations Department

Hopes of a reopening of the Staircase and pathway between Third Ave West
and Fourth west were dashed on Thursday by the City's Operations Director

The topic of the connecting stairs between Third Avenue West and Fourth Avenue West once again made for a City Council theme for discussion, with Councillor Cunningham returning to the topic to seek some guidance on the city's plans for the pathway which has been closed for a number of months.

"How long is the stairs and pathway from Fourth West down to Third West going to be closed.  Because that's a major thoroughfare for a lot of the people coming from different parts of town that are walking and coming down there to Third Avenue. 

And there's a considerable amount of older people living up in that area too that walk downtown all the time and now they have got to go down through Service Park or their actually driving and creating more o a parking problem." 


The Director of Operations Richard Pucci did not add much to his narrative from that which he delivered to Council at their April 11th meeting.

Mr. Pucci providing for a short synopsis and seemingly little in the way of  hope that the issue would be receiving any immediate attention.

"So at this point we don't have a timeline to open it up, we simply in the budget don't have the funds to be able do the geo technical assessment. I think we are doing some minor tree clearing in there just to saften up the area  and secure the slope.

We believe that once a geotechnical assessment is done and they look at the damage that it's going to be a far larger project than anyone really believes, because there is some issues with the pathway.

So I think that it is actually quite a bigger job than a lot of people think it is and we simply don't have the funds to do it right now"

The Mayor observed of some potential grant funding that the city could pursue, with the City Manager noting of the Active Transportation funding that could be available.

"So what might be bike lanes in other communities are probably these thoroughfares that are important connectors in our community, so I know staff is working on it. But fair question and a real concern" -- Mayor Herb Pond   

The overview of the pathway situation can be reviewed from the city's video archive at the 23 minute mark.


More notes on Civic Operations can be reviewed here.

A wider overview of the Thursday Special Session can be examined from our archive page.

19 comments:

  1. It is all about priorities. The logo change the city spent the money on would of paid for the stair repair. To the ones that use it the stairs are much more important.

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  2. This, along with many other stairs and pathways have been neglected in this city for decades. Maybe they should fix them before making fancy salt marshes.

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    1. PRPA developed the salt marsh.
      The city didn't plan a washroom or dog waste bags for the salt marsh. So it won't be fancy for long.

      City Hall has been swamped building the urbaloo, and EV charging station.
      They are also doing collabos with Eco-trust on heat pump campaigns, and the provincial government for bike lanes and post trip amenities.

      Staircases just aren't woke enough for city hall these days.

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    2. Salt marsh was paid for the PRPA as a legal requirement for habitat compensation for environmental damage from Fairview expansion

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  3. Wheelhouse Pub money would of fixed all pathways, c/w landscaping with money left over.
    Priorities here are wrong!

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  4. City sucks blah blah NCR fan base

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    1. NCR fan base = PR tax base

      Some good points. Why do we have $xx million in legacy but no funds to do a geotechnical assessment?

      Previous council seemed to paint a rosier picture and it makes me consider that perhaps they committed funds to the wrong places and that maybe their priorities were a bit out of whack.

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    2. Why doesn’t City West start making payments on loans from the city? It is now a province wide company supported by Rupert taxes.

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    3. “NCR fan base = PR tax base”

      This is almost laugh out loud funny given the overwhelmingly opposition to taking any action on the Port tax cap or holding the PRPA accountable for their actions

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    4. Why doesn’t the PRPA start paying its fair share? It is now the third largest port in the country supported by its host community

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    5. Sir this is a staircase

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  5. “ holding the PRPA accountable for their actions”

    You can hold them accountable for re-imagining the north coast economy with a thank you

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    1. Reimagining the north coast economy?

      Sorry but Charles Hays saw the strategic value of our location over a century ago. Hardly reimaginating anything

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    2. Maybe you’re too young to recall that 20-ish years ago we had a pulp mill go bankrupt which created an economic vacuum. You can in part thank the prpa for reimagining the Prince Rupert economy. It’s astounding how short some people’s memories are.

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    3. Oh the irony of you using the pulp mill as an example …. It was the City, not the PRPA, who can claim all of reimagining credit for the turnaround of Watson Island. It’s astounding how short some people’s memories are.

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    4. It is great to have Watson producing after the City took ownership of it in 2009 and spent up to $25 million to reimagine it.

      I would rather it be 75% leased than have an award.
      (It is currently 13% leased)

      Awards don't pay for geotechnical assessments, assigning credit for previous administrations doesn't either.

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    5. Any evidence for that $25 million claim?

      And I would rather have the port pay their fair share than have them win awards too.

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    6. Shift through the city finances, and you can find the Watson line items.

      $15 million to repurpose
      $250 K in annual legal fees
      $6 million in missed tax revenue
      $90 000 a month in upkeep ( 36 months = $3.2 Million)

      There is your up to $25 million in total to repurpose

      Watson Island Timeline

      1951 - 2001 - Pulp Mill Operating
      2001 - Pulp Mill goes bankrupt
      2006 - Sunwave purchased Pulp Mill (+ 25 year tax exemption if Mill restarted at full capacity by 2007)
      2009 - COPR takes ownership of Watson Island
      2013 - Mill Site Decommissioning starts
      2015 - Watson Island Decommissioning starts
      2017 - Pembina Investment announced
      2021 - First Pembina ship loaded
      2023 - 13% of Watson Leased

      Love the parroted responses, you're doing great.

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    7. Ah, thanks for demonstrating your bad faith.

      “Missed revenue” is not a cost.
      And $90k per month holding costs was paid for by potential proponents who did a deal with Jack Missallum’s crew. That’s why even more legal costs.

      All you’re doing is furthering a red herring. This is a story about a staircase and one commenter who refuses to parrot the PRPA propaganda

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