Monday, May 1, 2023

Port Related Fire service arrangements, prospects for future partnerships outlined

Prince Rupert Fire Rescue members taking part in a joint
Stakeholder exercise at the Pembina and AltaGas Terminals
in August. of 2021

Our look at some of the feedback that Prince Rupert City Council received from their budget consultation offered up an interesting side trip to the process, that making for some notes from residents when it comes to the current status of Fire fighting services in the community.

The larger overview can be reviewed here, but one reader asked a question related to the service to Industrial stakeholders and for an answer we put the question to Kathrine Voigt, the Manager of Corporate Communications for the Prince Rupert Port Authority.

Towards how the fire response takes place she offered the following:

Fire response at Port of Prince Rupert terminals is a combination of the Prince Rupert Fire Department’s response services in the event of an emergency and each terminal’s fire suppression infrastructure and trained on-site personnel. 


Each terminal has its own fit-for-purpose fire mitigation and response procedures and capabilities, in addition to staff trained in basic fire response procedures.

In our review of last week, we also noted of some recent commentary during the Budget discussions last Monday where a number of councillors expressed some hope for sharing some of the burden on fire fighting in the community.

And also, you know maybe we can share the cost with industry. You know, that's something that's gotta be looked at, but you know that was another suggestion made.

I think you know people look at the Fire Department as a big cash cow,  it isn't. 

It's a very essential service especially if you want to attract industry.  Industry is not going to come to a town where if they build something and something happens it's just going to disappear  

And so I think we definitely have an advantage having a full time fire department, especially with the size of the port we've got and things like that.

You know are they sharing the cost, hopefully one day they will,  but in the meantime we have to do it alone" -- Councillor Barry Cunningham at the April 24 Council Session

On that theme, Ms. Voigt noted of some work an discussions that have been taking place in the past towards a new facility for the PRFD and how the Port may be able to be part of that effort.

To ensure that the Port of Prince Rupert is fully equipped to address any terminal operations fire-related emergency, while minimizing the burden on local Prince Rupert Fire Department resources, PRPA and the City of Prince Rupert are working cooperatively to investigate the opportunity for a new and enhanced Emergency Response and Training facility. 

Recognizing the City’s need for a new fire hall, as well as the requirement for various port operations to internally provide or contract specific emergency services that aren’t currently available locally, PRPA and the City believe there may be significant mutual benefit in a collaborative capital and operating venture.


At the time, the proposed location for such a new facility had been identified as property behind the Lester Centre off of Wantage Road.

An area between the current Public Works yard
and the Lester Centre had previously been
noted as a possible site for a new Emergency
Responders facility


Former Mayor Lee Brain also noted of the discussions with industry as part of his State of City presentation on June 28th of that year.

In March of 2022, a new Emergencies Service facility for the Fire Service was noted as part of the a call for a Master Service Agreement for Infrastructure by the City.

The City has yet to make any official statement towards its plans for a new Fire Hall other than to include the prospect as part of their Financial planning for the future.





More items of note from Council Discussions can be explored through our archive page.







9 comments:

  1. Really truly ironic that the PRPA’s share of the cost will be funded by Prince Rupert taxpayers paying their PILT bill for them!

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  2. It's not good enough for public works but its a perfect spot for a fire department.

    "We've been talking about it for a while, the current facility right now has Health and Safety concerns. It's actually built on part of a garbage dump, so the soil conditions there for a new build isn't great.

    It is in a slide zone as well, so geo-technically its in a very not really favourable area. It doesn't get a lot of light, and so the moulds and mildews build up there."

    https://northcoastreview.blogspot.com/2023/04/alternative-thoughts-towards-mccarthy.html

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    1. I believe the site that was identified for the facility last year is more towards the Lester Centre than it is to the City Yard further down Wantage NCR

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    2. Slightly towards the Lester Centre but still its adjacent to current public works location.

      Is it outside of the slide zone?
      Is it a geotechnically favourable area for a fire station?
      Do the soil conditions offer something more?
      Does it get a more light?
      Is it less susceptible to mould and mildew?

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    3. If it is such a dangerous slide zone no one should be allowed in. If council is making decisions on the dangers of a slide the geo-tech report should of been presented to council to support justifications to move to McCarthy Building.

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    4. No, not even close to adjacent. More than half a kilometre away.

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    5. From the article from last year cited in the story:

      The location for the proposed facility has been identified by the PRPA as land under the control of the City of Prince Rupert, in an area bounded by the Lester Centre of the Arts, and Yellowhead highway to the north, forest to the east, the City Public Works Yard to the Southeast and Wantage Road to the Southwest. NCR

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    6. Perhaps more than a half kilometer by road but the proposed fire station location is directly beside the current public works site.

      If part of the rationale for moving public works to the MacCarthy location is due to the risk of slides at the current location, doesn't that make at least part of the fire station's location susceptible to slides as well? If there's a risk of slides taking out Public Works you'd have to think that there's the potential for it to also at least end up in the parking lot of the fire station. The proposal also includes a training centre so I wouldn't expect the footprint to be small.

      Maybe the location is fine but when considering the other points for the adjacent site being unfavourable such light, mould and mildew as well, it seems that the same ratiolnale isn't being applied to both circumstances. It's enough of an issue to move one city department but not enough to prevent a new build of a very important building.

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  3. Is it the former mobile home/trailer park location?

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