That was somewhat of the current of discussion from Monday's Council session as the city's council members explored a lengthy list of variance requests on the evening, with the first three of the collection of eight generating much of the discussion.
The topic was one that had the Council members making note of what has been a growing number of properties that come to them after the structure has been completed, or is nearing completion with a number of variance request then to be applied for.
Among some of the observations to the theme over the course of minutes of discussion included:
"This is a property that has been hanging around for sometime, it was on hold for what looks like a calendar year ... and I'm just wondering this is a new building, I believe it was built as of from 2020 on. I'm just wondering how we end up with a new building that needs all of these variances in order to move to completion. Would there not be some process by which some oversight of the construction would have prevented it coming to this point in this way" -- Councillor Nick Adey
"I have no problem passing these variances, but I have a problem with the fact that we have to pass them. You know a guy can't start tearing down his house. But you know, at the end of the day he chose not to do certain things ... like I say, I have no problem passing this variance, but at the same time I'm wondering why we have to pass variances on a whole building and not just one aspect of it or another.
We've turned down people that have, one person in particular, that came to us with plans to build a rather large house on a lot, we turned him down ahead of time, because of all the variances he needed. And another where we had another one where we turned down a build after he built it and wanted a variance. -- Councillor Barry Cunningham
Councillor Adey added to his narrative on the night, concurring with Councillor Cunningham that the Council was not likely to order a reversal of construction, returning to his theme of future construction and the need for stop gaps to try to prevent such instances from happening again.
By the time the third of the opening variance request came along, Councillor Cunningham made his observation towards how the issue may be getting away from city staff and council.
"I've been around and looking at a lot of these variances in the last month and this month. And we're asking to pass variances on things that are already started to be built, or are built.
And I'm wondering is this getting out of control or what? ... In most cases I've got no problem passing them, it's just like it's started before we're even being asked" -- Councillor Barry Cunningham
City Manager Rob Buchan handled most of the council enquiries on the topic, outlining the current process of development by the City, as well as to outline some of the Council's options towards how they choose to handle the variance requests.
He first noted that in some of the instances up for consideration on the night, that the process under consideration was to move forward towards public notification, where the public will have opportunity to comment.
Towards how Council can handle variances the City Manager reviewed what Council needs to keep in mind related to their approach.
"Council does not have to say yes to a variance application, it is discretionary. It's something that you may feel compelled to, you know given the choices to say yes to, but you are not obliged to say yes. Sometimes mitigating measures may need to occur to try to address some of the variance if that's possible. It is entirely Council's Discretion here, acting in good faith" -- City Manager Rob Buchan
To the discussion on the current process of oversight, the City Manager observed how staff would be reviewing the current approach and look at how to improve on it.
"We will make some inquiries to see whether or not if any of these could have been dealt with earlier by staff, or caught earlier.
Sometimes things are simply built without any permits, sometimes things are built with permits, but not in accordance with the permit and we only find out the encroachments or the variances at the time of particular inspections ...
It really depends on the case, but we will take a look internally and see whether or not there's more checks that we could be doing" -- City Manager Rob Buchan
You can review some of the background towards how all of the eight variance requests for the night were address through our Council Timeline Feature.
The review of the discussions for each start at the twenty four minute mark of Monday's Council session.
When is the city going to get serious about managing the city. To start a project requires a building permit. Work should not proceed until such time as the building permit obtained. This would include an approval of all variances required.
ReplyDeleteI can think of one property that built required a variance the applied, council turned the variance down it is still as it was without a variance and built the way the owner wanted. No more wishy washy no compliance to the rules requires harsh measures.
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DeleteThe requirements for a survey prior to issuing a permit would solve a lot of problems. This would give building dept. lines to check compliance.
ReplyDeleteThis City Hall needs some standards and a backbone. Why is everything ad hoc and arbitrary? Thanks to this haphazard approach to planning and land use standards out downtown is a grow op. We have deserted rusty machinery beside residential, we have high rises alongside single family dwelling, our landfill gets full, the water supply is unsafe, and and.... it’s basic urban planning and city administration
ReplyDeleteTypical Rupert way of doing things... lol.
ReplyDeleteThis City Hall needs some standards and a backbone. Why is everything ad hoc and arbitrary?
ReplyDeleteThere is a point where the city really doesn't have coherent planning and land use standards, just discretionary decisions by the city council.
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